bro, you can be to differ just fine.. thats your call.. .sarms are not c17 alpha alkylated and not toxic aside from yk11, which i have mentioned several times, containing slight methylation... this is fact, not just nonsense or heresay... my liver enzymes for instance, stay elevated from stress from the amount of working out... ive never once personally had elevated enzymes from sarms use and have been at this over a decade with them and have seen it with it some, SLIGHTLY , but often times its with the hardcore workout people or the people with extreme diets etc... your acting as though you are in a range of a steroid user etc... your numbers are not alarming in any way and ANY doctor would tell you that...
also.... i have had blood work done now three times on myself in the past 4 months because i had high liver and kidney numbers... this is while using NOTHING aside from my normal trt... they fluctuate nonstop.. perfectly healthy liver and kidneys, and thats after ultrasounds and other testing done just to be sure... this is common and normal... you have done this before with mk677, where you just had very sensitive reactions.. some people have that as well...
so its fine when its of concern or of question, thats why you ask questions but to insinuate these are toxic is completely false...
i have always told everyone, NO MATTER WHAT YOU ARE USING, to always protect your organs regardless because WE ALL RESPOND DIFFERENTLY AND ITS JUST WISE TO ALWAYS PROTECT YOURSELF... im the guy that tells everyone, even if they are not running ANY compounds that convert to estrogen, to always have an AI on hand regardless... structurally, scientifically, however you want to look at it, we ALL have different reactions that cannot be explained by any type of "science" etc... thats how this all works.. its ALL trial and error as you learn YOUR body... i can give you facts over facts over a million other facts, studies etc.. and that is great as a reference but ultimately, it means jack in the long run if YOU respond a certain way... you could be 1 out of a million but there is always that one or two or small portion that is always sensitive to outside stimuli or that just respond differently than others... ive literally seen it all... ive been coaching steroid users for over a decade... ive seen the strangest, oddest scenarios you could imagine so i get it.. .this is why bloodwork is so important but right now your numbers are so far from alarming...
Thanks for the thorough response bro.
Before I posted this, I did a search on liver related SARMS threads and read a lot of bros talking in absolutes. "SARMS don't hurt your liver", "SARMS are not toxic", "if your values are up, you must have purchased shit gear from a non-approved source", etc.
I knew exactly what I was going to do to lower my levels and was not fishing for answers, but I posted like this so younger guys hopefully realize all of our bodies react differently and they need to constantly monitor their bloods and the effects PED's are having on their bodies.
For the record, this is not to criticize the opinions of others. We all have a right to post our opinions and experiences for the good of the collective. (I know you understand where I am coming from.)
I am also owning my screw up here. I should never have started a PED, especially an oral, without organ protection and elevated liver values is what I got for being negligent and lazy.
Overall, I could not agree with you more. Everyone is different and there are no "one size fits all" PED solution.
I have a history of being sensitive to certain compounds, which is good and bad. The positive side is that I need less gear than many guys to see the same results. The negative side is that sometime my side effects are more intense or different than most.
However, I get my liver enzymes tested regularly and this is the first time my enzymes were elevated since I took Dbol 15 years ago. I know, without question, this was not because my body is under stress...I am 95% this was because of he Ostarine and Cardarine. Because I am not a doctor, because I try not to think in absolutes and because I certainly don't know everything, I could be wrong, but I really can't see another explanation.
If it looks like a duck and quacks, it's usually a duck.
Again, as is, my current liver values are nothing to really worry about, but because of the elevation, I need to take action, before it becomes an issue. With the addition of TUDCA, NAC, Milk Thistle, vitamins D and Zinc, the values should drop reasonably soon.
Once I start that supplement regime, I will retest in a few weeks.
Thanks again for your input as always.
