Wasn't epistane popular in like 2007 ? How did you actually get a hold of legitimate epistane, I remember seeing the bottle in a supplement store it was black with a green helix on it. Any who I wouldn't run any PH I'd run straight sarms or sarms and test although you dont need to run test at all with sarms. Depending on age and if you know what you are doing I would honestly just run a 12 week sarms cycle, I got great results off my first cycle and going from no ped to some ped it's a night and day difference and I noticed immensely, majority of my strength has stuck with me after cycle.