I would not advise using tren before atleast giving some safer alternatives a try. Tren is an uphill mental battle that is best left alone in my opinion, but in the rare case other, less toxic agents are not delivering the results that you need, then maybe consider tren. Depending on what your goals are, there are many safer alternatives to tren, just keep researching, keep looking for answers, and keep asking questions. If you want to get shredded while also building lean muscle I would recommend a Test and anavar cycle. You can check out my thread to get an idea of what you can expect from the chemical combination. Stay up bro