TRT and anavar question

[Jose Cansacko]

i'm in my early 50s, started TRT in JAN with 160mg/ week (2x pins) of Cyp; blood work in MAY had my T at about 1500. i felt great, workouts were improving after the gym re-opened, libido strong. As my natural production turned off, that faded a bit so i decided to increase my dose to 200mg/week, and now i feel really good again. I've got to talk to my doc and get blook work in DEC, so i've dropped my dose back to 160mg starting this week and will have the discussion with my doc to increase to 200mg after blood work in DEC. One day after pinning, (80mg) my nipples got really sore for 3-4 hours; this has not happened before and now seem to be under control. Any thoughts on if this is a normal occurrence after dropping my dose?
One of my bros suggested in order to not stall in the gym and since i have a physical test at work in DEC, i should run a cycle of anavar for 4-6 weeks, starting with 25mg/1x a day. Does this sound like a reasonable plan?
thanks in advance.

 

[sambee38]

i'm in my early 50s, started TRT in JAN with 160mg/ week (2x pins) of Cyp; blood work in MAY had my T at about 1500. i felt great, workouts were improving after the gym re-opened, libido strong. As my natural production turned off, that faded a bit so i decided to increase my dose to 200mg/week, and now i feel really good again. I've got to talk to my doc and get blook work in DEC, so i've dropped my dose back to 160mg starting this week and will have the discussion with my doc to increase to 200mg after blood work in DEC. One day after pinning, (80mg) my nipples got really sore for 3-4 hours; this has not happened before and now seem to be under control. Any thoughts on if this is a normal occurrence after dropping my dose?
One of my bros suggested in order to not stall in the gym and since i have a physical test at work in DEC, i should run a cycle of anavar for 4-6 weeks, starting with 25mg/1x a day. Does this sound like a reasonable plan?
thanks in advance.

160mgs isn't enough for TRT stick to at least 200mgs/week. The feeling you get is high estrogen, you need to add some aromasin low dose 5mgs ED to 10mgs.

For anavar, 6 week anavar cycle @ 50mgs/day and 7caps n2guard/day (organ/liver support)

 

[Jose Cansacko]

thanks Sambee; after i do blood work i'll talk to my doc about increasing to 200mgs/week. looking forward to adding some var...

 

[GHgut4life]

thanks Sambee; after i do blood work i'll talk to my doc about increasing to 200mgs/week. looking forward to adding some var...

200mgs/week test cyp is your base dose for most TRT. For anavar make sure you have liver and organ support with it. Start with 30mgs anavar and ramp up to 40mgs, 50mgs, 1week+1week.

 

[starboy]

i'm in my early 50s, started TRT in JAN with 160mg/ week (2x pins) of Cyp; blood work in MAY had my T at about 1500. i felt great, workouts were improving after the gym re-opened, libido strong. As my natural production turned off, that faded a bit so i decided to increase my dose to 200mg/week, and now i feel really good again. I've got to talk to my doc and get blook work in DEC, so i've dropped my dose back to 160mg starting this week and will have the discussion with my doc to increase to 200mg after blood work in DEC. One day after pinning, (80mg) my nipples got really sore for 3-4 hours; this has not happened before and now seem to be under control. Any thoughts on if this is a normal occurrence after dropping my dose?
One of my bros suggested in order to not stall in the gym and since i have a physical test at work in DEC, i should run a cycle of anavar for 4-6 weeks, starting with 25mg/1x a day. Does this sound like a reasonable plan?
thanks in advance.

TRT can even be 100mgs/week but doesn't mean it can help you. Stick to at least 200mgs test cyp/week. Though for anavar, if you want to use it go with 30mgs per day to start, bump it to 50mgs.

 

[Mobster]

Your natural production was what before?

 

[SteveSmi]

if you overdose on TRT it will backfire. 200mg is way too high. should be around 125mg a week at most. doctors used to not give guys enough TRT, not they are giving TOO MUCH. this pattern is not good

 

[cbbram]

Always use blood work to determine your dosage

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

I your test levels were 1500 on TRT you actually should have decreased your dose, not increased it. You want to be around 900 to be optimal with estrogen in line. You ended up over dosing it and skyrocketing estrogen. Plus stressing your organs out. I would try a dose of around 120mg per week and see where that gets your levels.

 

[Tazz]

make sure you take n2guard with anavar

 

[Jose Cansacko]

Mobster, my initial test levels were at 750; free test at 11; estradiol 29; SHBG 84 in JAN20; 90 days later about 1,500; free test at 31; estradiol at 53; SHBG 59. I have not had any gyno, except for a weird flare up for 3-4 hours last week. Thanks for your input.

 

[Jose Cansacko]

I your test levels were 1500 on TRT you actually should have decreased your dose, not increased it. You want to be around 900 to be optimal with estrogen in line. You ended up over dosing it and skyrocketing estrogen. Plus stressing your organs out. I would try a dose of around 120mg per week and see where that gets your levels.

When i went over my blood work w/ my doc in APR20, he said that my levels were likely at 1500 cuz my natural production have not totally shut down. i felt like my levels had decreased in late JUL/AUG (less energy; lower libido, etc), but i screwed up and didn't talk to my doc and just increased my dose to 200mg/week. I've dropped it back down this week to the prescribed 160mgs so i can get my levels adjusted to that dose for blood work in DEC.

Does anyone here think adding 25mg of anavar for 4-6 weeks while my levels adjust to the 160mg/week of cyp will affect my test, estradiol, etc for bloods in DEC?

Appreciate the experience and straight up info from the group!

 

[going2cycle]

Mobster, my initial test levels were at 750; free test at 11; estradiol 29; SHBG 84 in JAN20; 90 days later about 1,500; free test at 31; estradiol at 53; SHBG 59. I have not had any gyno, except for a weird flare up for 3-4 hours last week. Thanks for your input.

Those are good numbers actually for a cycle. your estrogen still needs to drop though, down to base 15 or so.

@Mobster check this

 

[going2cycle]

When i went over my blood work w/ my doc in APR20, he said that my levels were likely at 1500 cuz my natural production have not totally shut down. i felt like my levels had decreased in late JUL/AUG (less energy; lower libido, etc), but i screwed up and didn't talk to my doc and just increased my dose to 200mg/week. I've dropped it back down this week to the prescribed 160mgs so i can get my levels adjusted to that dose for blood work in DEC.

Does anyone here think adding 25mg of anavar for 4-6 weeks while my levels adjust to the 160mg/week of cyp will affect my test, estradiol, etc for bloods in DEC?

Appreciate the experience and straight up info from the group!

If you add anavar for 6 weeks, it will change your bloods for sure. But if you run 4 weeks of anavar and do bloods in end of December, it wont be a problem at all. If you're off anavar for at least 2 weeks your levels will drop.

 

[Mobster]

Your natural level was pretty damn good for 50

 

[Jose Cansacko]

If you add anavar for 6 weeks, it will change your bloods for sure. But if you run 4 weeks of anavar and do bloods in end of December, it wont be a problem at all. If you're off anavar for at least 2 weeks your levels will drop.

That's good to know; i'll try to keep a 2 week buffer before i do blood work, so i can get an accurate picture of where i'm at suppressed on 160mgs/week.

 

[Jose Cansacko]

Your natural level was pretty damn good for 50

Yeah not too bad for an ole guy; i didn't have as much energy and my libido was dropping some before TRT. I feel pretty good at this point, just need to stabilize my levels so i can get an accurate picture. appreciate the comments.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Nipples would not get sore right after injecting based on estrogen or anything.

 

[Jose Cansacko]

Nipples would not get sore right after injecting based on estrogen or anything.

It happened about 36 hours after my last pin; the first one at a lower dose. Not sure what the cause was...since i have not had any negatives side effects since starting trt.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

It happened about 36 hours after my last pin; the first one at a lower dose. Not sure what the cause was...since i have not had any negatives side effects since starting trt.

Oh, sorry. I misread. That could certainly be estrogen related then. Just monitor blood work.